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		<title>No hay opciones, sólo soluciones &#8211; LaRouche</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Estulin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hola a todos, Les dejo aviso de que mañana Jueves habrá una conferencia en directo de Lyndon LaRouche que dará inicio a la 1:00 pm, hora del Este de EUA, 19 horas en España y será accesible en vivo desde el portal www.larouchepac.com. Se traducirá simultáneamente al alemán, español, francés e italiano. En español se podrá <a href='http://www.danielestulin.com/2011/07/20/no-hay-opciones-solo-soluciones-larouche/'>[...]</a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Hola a todos,</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Les dejo aviso de que mañana Jueves habrá una conferencia en directo de Lyndon LaRouche que dará inicio a la 1:00 pm, hora del Este de EUA, 19 horas en España y será accesible en vivo desde el portal <a href="http://www.larouchepac.com">www.larouchepac.com</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Se traducirá simultáneamente al alemán, español, francés e italiano. En español se podrá acceder directamente desde el portal <a href="http://espanol.larouchepac.com">http://espanol.larouchepac.com</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Feliz miércoles para todos.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Daniel Estulin</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3471" title="Firma Daniel Estulin " src="http://www.danielestulin.com/wp-content/uploads/FirmaDanielEstulinblog21.jpg" alt="No hay opciones, sólo soluciones   LaRouche FirmaDanielEstulinblog21" width="100" height="42" /></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-4693" title="Vídeo conferencia Lyndon LaRouche" src="http://www.danielestulin.com/wp-content/uploads/feature1.jpg" alt="No hay opciones, sólo soluciones   LaRouche feature1" width="365" height="263" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Videoconferencia internacional de Lyndon LaRouche</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Jueves</strong><strong> </strong><strong>21 de julio de 2011 &#8212; 1:00 pm (hora del Este de EU) desde Washington D.C.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Traducción simultánea al Español &#8211; </strong><strong>7 de la tarde en España 19:00 horas.</strong></p>
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<h5 style="text-align: center;"><strong>&#8220;NO HAY OPCIONES, SÓLO SOLUCIONES&#8221;</strong></h5>
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<p>19 de julio de 2011 (EIRNS) &#8212; En tanto que el sistema financiero internacional en bancarrota hace explosión en ambos lados del Atlántico, el discurso de las llamadas principales instituciones financieras sigue dominado por propuestas para imponer dictaduras fascistas y una incompetencia que conducirá, en el mejor de los casos, al caos asesino. Pero el 21 de julio, el destacado economista estadounidense Lyndon LaRouche pondrá sobre la mesa sus <em>soluciones </em>únicas, en su videoconferencia internacional. Esta videoconferencia podría muy bien ser el acontecimiento decisivo para determinar la supervivencia de Estados Unidos, y la civilización misma.</p>
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<p>La videoconferencia dará inicio a la 1:00 pm, hora del Este de EUA, y será accesible en vivo desde el portal <a href="http://www.larouchepac.com">www.larouchepac.com</a>. Se traducirá simultáneamente al alemán, español, francés e italiano. En español se podrá acceder directamente desde el portal <a href="http://espanol.larouchepac.com">http://espanol.larouchepac.com</a>.</p>
<p>LaRouche adelantó los temas centrales de la videoconferencia en su elección del título: &#8220;O se va Obama, o desaparece Estados Unidos. ¡Echemos a Obama de su cargo hoy mismo! No hay opciones, solo soluciones&#8221;.</p>
<p>Las soluciones de LaRouche empiezan con la reinstitución inmediata de la ley Glass-Steagall de Franklin Delano Roosevelt, seguido del establecimiento de un sistema de crédito en la tradición del primer Secretario del Tesoro de Estados Unidos, Alexander Hamilton. En este momento hay dos proyectos de ley en la Cámara de Representantes de EU para reinstituir la Glass-Steagall, la H.R.1489 que introdujo la representante Marcy Kaptur, y la H.R. 2451 que introdujo el representante Maurice Hinchey. En cuanto Estados Unidos dé este paso, plantea LaRouche, puede crear de inmediato las condiciones para que Europa haga lo mismo, y se libere a sí misma también de los billones de dólares en deuda tóxica impagable que está destruyendo a la población en todo el mundo. De este modo se allana el camino para reestablecer un sistema de tipos de cambio fijos en todo el mundo.</p>
<p>La acción inmediata a favor de la  Glass-Steagall creará  también las condiciones para remover al Presidente Obama, quien ya es enjuiciable políticamente por sus delitos en contra de la Constitución de Estados Unidos.</p>
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		<title>Interview with Thomas Tamm about the Bush Era of wiretapping</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Estulin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Courtesy of my friend Robin Lynn Ore. Finally, after years of being tapped, raided, and impoverished&#8230;Thomas Tamm, who exposed what he thought was the illegality of Bush era wiretapping, had the case against him dropped by the DOJ. It should be noted that AT&#38;T was selling information to paying clients during this time. The hearings <a href='http://www.danielestulin.com/2011/07/13/interview-with-thomas-tamm-about-the-bush-era-of-wiretapping/'>[...]</a>]]></description>
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<p>Courtesy of my friend Robin Lynn Ore. Finally, after years of being tapped, raided, and impoverished&#8230;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Tamm" target="_blank">Thomas Tamm</a>, who exposed what he thought was the illegality of Bush era wiretapping, had the case against him dropped by the DOJ.</p>
<p>It should be noted that AT&amp;T was selling information to paying clients during this time. The hearings were on CSPAN and one customer said he had one on one time with scientists.  In a national broadcast exclusive, DN speaks with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Tamm" target="_blank">Thomas Tamm</a>, the former U.S. Justice Department attorney who helped expose the Bush administration&#8217;s domestic warrantless eavesdropping program that intercepted private email messages and phone calls of U.S. residents without a court warrant.</p>
<p>Daniel Estulin</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2011/4/28/doj_drops_probe_of_whistleblower_who" target="_blank">Link to original article</a> &#8211; See the full interview on Democracy Now! and the video if you can&#8217;t watch it here.</p>
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<p>DOJ Drops Probe of Whistleblower Who Exposed Bush-Era Domestic Spying, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Tamm" target="_blank">Thomas Tamm</a>: &#8220;The Bottom Line Is I Don’t Think I Ever Broke the Law&#8221;</p>
<p>In a national broadcast exclusive, we speak with Thomas Tamm, the former U.S. Justice Department attorney who helped expose the Bush administration’s domestic warrantless eavesdropping program that intercepted private email messages and phone calls of U.S. residents without a court warrant. On Tuesday, news broke that the Justice Department dropped its long-running criminal investigation of Tamm. The relatively quiet end to the investigation into Tamm’s warrantless wiretapping leak marks a sharp contrast to the controversy his information generated during the second half of the Bush administration about whether the government had overstepped its legal authority in response to the 9/11 terror attacks.</p>
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<p><strong><a href="http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/thomas_tamm">Thomas Tamm</a></strong>, former U.S. Department of Justice attorney who helped expose the George W. Bush administration’s domestic warrantless surveillance program.</p>
<p><strong>JUAN GONZALEZ:</strong> We turn now to an update on the whistleblower who helped expose the Bush administration’s warrantless domestic eavesdropping program. He made what’s been called the biggest leak of the Bush era.</p>
<p>In 2004, Justice Department attorney Thomas Tamm called the <em>New York Times</em> and told them about the National Security Agency’s secret program to intercept private email messages and phone calls of U.S. residents without a court warrant. Based in part on his tip, the <em>Times</em>went on to expose what many believe was a highly illegal program. The <em>Times</em> even won a Pulitzer Prize for its reporting. Meanwhile, Thomas Tamm lost his job. The FBI raided his house and began monitoring his phone calls and email. Up until this week, he faced possible arrest for disclosing classified secrets.</p>
<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> Well, on Tuesday, Politico broke the news that the Justice Department has dropped its longstanding criminal investigation of Tamm. Asked to comment on the story, Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters, quote, &#8220;These matters get reviewed by career lawyers in the department. They look at these matters in an exhaustive fashion and reach what I think are appropriate conclusions.&#8221;</p>
<p>The relatively quiet end to the investigation into Tamm’s warrantless wiretapping leak marks a sharp contrast to the controversy his tip generated during the second half of the Bush administration about whether the government had overstepped its legal authority in response to the 9/11 terror attacks.</p>
<p>Thomas Tamm joins us now from Washington, D.C. We welcome you back to the program.</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> Thank you for inviting me.</p>
<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> Well, talk about what this means and what this investigation, your ouster from the Justice Department, what all of this has meant for your life over the past five years.</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> Well, I mean, it’s a relief that the long ordeal is over. Unfortunately, I ruined my career. I had loved working at the Justice Department, particularly in the Criminal Division. It was an honor to represent the people of the United States. As a result of that, I incurred significant legal fees, which I still owe. I borrowed money for those legal fees. And, you know, really, probably the biggest impact was on my family. I wasn’t home when the 18 FBI agents rammed through my house, but my wife was, and my kids were. My kids were awakened in their beds by strangers wearing guns. And I don’t think that they will ever get over that. My wife doesn’t feel the same way about our house, doesn’t feel as safe in our house.</p>
<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> Could you go back, just chronologically take us through this? Your case did not get a tremendous amount of attention, certainly through the years. So talk about what you found out when you were working in the Justice Department, when you made that phone call to the <em>Times</em>, and how this raid took place. But start at the beginning.</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> Well, it really kind of started with me after 9/11. In the Criminal Division, we had the opportunity to talk to the families of the 9/11 attack, and I decided that I wanted to try and go after the real bad guys, the people that had attacked our country. And so, I went to this office where you were — where we did legal wiretapping and electronic surveillance, approved by a court, to try and gain intelligence about foreign agents. I was there only a short period of time. It was right at the start of the Iraq war, and fear permeated that office. And it was — I think for the first time I understood what fear, &#8220;the only thing we have to fear is fear itself,&#8221; actually meant.</p>
<p>And as I participated in that, I realized that there was a separate track of cases, about 10 percent of the cases, that did not go through the normal process, that went to just one particular judge. And only the Attorney General could sign those warrants, which was different from all of the other cases that I handled. And I remember a lawyer that was senior to me saying that she didn’t want to know what this program was. She just assumed it was illegal. And so, I just started — it was kind of an educated guess.</p>
<p>And, you know, it’s interesting to say that I made a phone call to the<em>New York Times</em>. Actually, it was a series of phone calls before I became comfortable even talking to them, and then it was a series of meetings, during which I said, &#8220;I think that there’s something illegal going on. I’m not sure what it is.&#8221; And they revealed to me that they had other sources that were also saying the same things from the NSAand the CIA. And they told me that I was their only source from the Department of Justice.</p>
<p><strong>JUAN GONZALEZ:</strong> Now, when this happened, the government was able to get the <em>New York Times</em> to withhold publishing those articles for quite some time. So, did they, during that period, know that you were a source already to the <em>Times</em>?</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> No, I don’t believe so. You know, the <em>Times</em>, as I understood it, was ready to run the story in the fall of 2004, and the story didn’t run for over a year. And I remember being really frustrated with that. I felt I had put a lot on the line. I thought it was really important for the American people to know that — what I viewed as an abuse of executive authority — in fact, I believe it was illegal, and clearly illegal — and eventually met with the <em>New York Times</em> reporters again. And one of the reporters said to me that they were frustrated, as well, that the White House said that the <em>New York Times</em> would have blood on their hands if they ran the story. And it’s my understanding that James Risen basically told the publisher of the<em>Times</em> that he was going to publish his book, which would reveal the story, if they did not publish the articles. And so, eventually, I guess, in December of 2005, they ran the story.</p>
<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> And what’s significant there, that date, December of 2005, after holding on to this for almost a year, that’s the month after the election that elected George W. Bush.</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> That’s correct.</p>
<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> So, when did the raid take place? And if you didn’t hand over documents, what is it that they were looking for?</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> Well, Amy, that’s a really good question. In retrospect, you know, if they had come to my door and knocked, I would have allowed them in, because I didn’t have any documents — secret documents, classified documents — in my house, on my computer, anywhere. I didn’t hand over anything to the <em>New York Times</em>. I didn’t reveal any sources or methods.</p>
<p>It happened in August, on August 1st of 2007. And as I said, some neighbors saw agents had drawn guns as they were approaching my house. I think, personally, that it was designed to intimidate me, to maybe — maybe the thinking was that I would realize that the whole weight of the federal government was coming down on me and that I should do, quote, &#8220;the right thing.&#8221; And indeed, within a couple of days, they spoke to my lawyer and offered me a plea, which would have involved going to jail. And I told my lawyer I didn’t think I had done anything wrong.</p>
<p><strong>JUAN GONZALEZ:</strong> Now, they then, subsequently, began to tap your own phone and follow your own emails. Have you ever been able to figure out how the government knew that you were the whistleblower?</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> Well, yes. You know what? Honestly, I thought all along that I would eventually be revealed. I thought what would happen was similar to what happened in Judy Miller’s case, for the — another reporter for the <em>Times</em>, that they would subpoena the reporters to the grand jury and that they would not — you know, they would exercise their First Amendment rights and try and protect their sources. But I had told Eric Lichtblau that he would not have to go to jail for me, that he could reveal his source if in fact he was subpoenaed to the grand jury.</p>
<p>And that’s why I think that — you know, I never expected that they would raid my house. And I communicated with a person up on the Hill who — when I determined that I thought something was going on that was illegal, and I went up and talked to that person on the Hill and said, &#8220;I want to know if Congress knows what is happening. If Congress has approved this, a co-equal branch of the government, then I’ll just walk away.&#8221; And that email to the person on the Hill was on my governemnt — I used my government email. And, you know, that’s not my property; that’s the property of the government. And theFBI looked at that email and went and talked to that person that I talked to, and I believe that’s how they determined that I was the person who had spoken to the <em>Times</em>.</p>
<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> And why, Thomas Tamm, was this so important to you? Why was it so critical that you would risk your career in doing this?</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> Well, the oath that I took was to preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States against enemies foreign and domestic. And, you know, it’s my belief that we are a stronger country because of our Constitution and because of our democratic institutions, like the courts and the Congress, as well as the presidency. And I honestly thought I had an ethical obligation to talk to somebody about what I thought was an illegal abuse of executive authority. In fact, when I was working at the Department of Justice inOIPR, my boss said that if you don’t want to sign one of these affidavits, if you’re afraid to put your name on these affidavits, then he would sign his name. And that just sent up a red flag. I said I would look at these documents and say, what is in here that might be suspicious? And there wasn’t anything. And so, I really thought it was my duty.</p>
<p><strong>JUAN GONZALEZ:</strong> And since the raid on your house, what happened afterwards, your leaving the Justice Department, and what you’ve been subjected to since?</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> Well, as you asked earlier, I was in contact with one of the — a colleague at a former office, and they informed me that theFBI had been there, and they knew where I had gone to lunch and with whom I had gone to lunch the week before. They knew that I had sent an email saying that I wasn’t going to attend an office function. And, you know, obviously, I had to hire a lawyer. I tried to set up a defense fund and was really pleased that a lot of people did help in that area and made some contributions so I could pay the lawyer. And as I said, it ruined my career. I’m in financial dire straits. And it really — it shook up my family. But, you know, as I said, it’s a big relief that I’m no longer under that cloud.</p>
<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> And why do you think that the Justice Department has dropped this investigation now? I just want to clarify, you made the call in the spring of 2004 to the <em>Times</em>. They didn’t publish the story for about a year and a half, so it was actually well after the 2004 election. It was like a year after the election that they finally published the story.</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> Right.</p>
<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> Though they had the story well before the election.</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> Right. I’m sorry, so what was your question? I didn’t —</p>
<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> The question is, why do you think the Justice Department has now dropped —- in fact, you were alerted many months before. It’s just that you happened to mention this at a party that Politico picked it up now, is that right? That you are not going to be -—</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> Right. That is right. I think the reason is because the lawyers at the Department of Justice realize that what was being done was in fact illegal. I mean, it’s very difficult to prosecute someone such as myself, recognizing that what I did was reveal something that was against the law. And I also believe that it would have been a problem proving the case against me, because President Bush, the day after that article was published, basically acknowledged that the program existed. In fact, he almost seemed like he was proud of the fact that there was warrantless wiretapping, you know, to supposedly protect the country. In my opinion, he revealed more classified information than I ever did. And the bottom line is, as we mentioned earlier, I didn’t turn over any documents, I didn’t reveal any sources. And really, the bottom line is, I don’t think I ever broke the law.</p>
<p><strong>JUAN GONZALEZ:</strong> I want to play an excerpt from a June 2009 Senate Judiciary Committee meeting, when U.S. Senator Russ Feingold questioned Attorney General Eric Holder about warrantless wiretapping.</p>
<p><strong><em>&#8220;SEN. RUSS FEINGOLD: In a speech to the American Constitution Society in June 2008, you, sir, said the following: &#8220;I never thought that I would see the day when a president would act in direct defiance of federal law by authorizing warrantless NSA surveillance of American citizens.&#8221; And the President himself also, several times as a senator and during the campaign, said the program was illegal. Now that you’re the Attorney General, is there any doubt in your mind that the warrantless wiretapping program was illegal?&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p><em><strong>&#8220;ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER: Well, I think that the warrantless wiretapping program, as it existed at that point, was certainly unwise, in that it was put together without the approval of Congress, and as a result, did not have all the protections, all the strength, that it might have had behind it, as I think it now exists with regard to having had congressional approval of it.&#8221;</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>JUAN GONZALEZ:</strong> That was Eric Holder. Your response, unwise or illegal?</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> I admire Eric Holder. I actually had the honor and privilege of working with him when I was in the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice. That is — that is not a very apt description of what was being done. You know, I understand there’s some argument about this, but it’s absolutely clear: using strict construction of the law, the law that we worked under said it was a federal felony for anyone to conduct electronic surveillance without going through the FISAcourt. That’s what it said. It did not have an exception for the president. It didn’t have an exception for time of war. It said anyone who does this without a warrant is guilty of a felony.</p>
<p>And for myself, I think the real story here is that we don’t know the number of Americans whose phones were tapped. We don’t know what happened with that information. And I think those people are entitled to know that their information was seized. And I think people ought to be prosecuted for violating the law.</p>
<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> It reminds me of Nixon, when he said, &#8220;If the president does it, it’s not illegal.&#8221; But, Thomas Tamm, let me ask you two questions. Have people ever been notified who were illegally wiretapped? And I remember well the whole issue of the telecoms, like Verizon and AT&amp;T, being involved with this warrantless wiretapping, and at the time Senator Obama said he would filibuster any attempt to give them retroactive immunity. He not only didn’t filibuster, but ultimately — and it was soon before the Democratic National Convention where he was nominated for — to be the presidential candidate — he not only didn’t filibuster, he supported the retroactive immunity to the telecoms. And as we got into Denver for the Democratic convention, AT&amp;T logos were emblazoned on every delegate’s bag of the DNC. What about this extended culpability?</p>
<p><strong>THOMAS TAMM:</strong> Well, I think that’s really troublesome, and it’s disappointing to me that — I guess we know politicians say things to get elected and then sometimes change their campaign promises or didn’t live up to their campaign promises. I think it’s outrageous that there was retroactive immunity. The telecoms and the Department of Justice worked every day with legally and lawfully getting these wiretaps approved by the FISA court. They knew what the law was. They employed very sharp and expensive lawyers to advise them.</p>
<p>And I am heartened that there is a case in the system now where some plaintiffs have shown that they have standing to challenge their belief that they were wiretapped. And the court of appeals — and I believe it’s in the Second Circuit — has just recently made a ruling that they can go forward with that suit. And I think then we will learn, hopefully, how many people were illegally wiretapped, and then maybe we will learn what was done with that information.</p>
<p>To answer your first question, I don’t think those people have been notified. The FISA statute actually contains language that says if we have gone up on — in an emergency situation, on somebody’s phone, we have 72 hours to present that information to a judge to basically get it approved. If that judge said that we did not have probable cause, we were obligated by the statute to notify the person who was wiretapped and tell them that in fact their communications were seized. And I believe that that should — that should happen to all the people that got wiretapped due to warrantless wiretapping.</p>
<p>And Amy, you’re absolutely right. This is what the law was about, was because of the Nixon abuses, because Martin Luther King was wiretapped by the FBI, you know, peace activists were wiretapped by the FBI. That is why we had that statue. And I believe, again, we have seen an abuse of executive authority.</p>
<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> Well, Thomas Tamm, I want to thank you very much. And just to clarify, when you say FISA, stands for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Thomas Tamm, former Justice Department attorney who helped expose the Bush administration’s warrantless domestic surveillance program. It is now clear that the case against him, as he has been surveilled and wiretapped and harassed by the government, has now been dropped. Thank you so much for joining us for this broadcast exclusive.</p>
<p>This is <em>Democracy Now!</em>, democracynow.org, The War and Peace Report. When we come back, another whistleblower of sorts, Ray McGovern will be with us. Stay with us.</p>
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		<title>Daniel Estulin en Camino del Misterio 20 de Mayo entrevista a Dennis Small</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 20:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aquí les dejo con un poco de retraso, otro programa maravilloso en Camino del Misterio, con la participación de Dennis Small de la organización LaRouche. Ha sido otro espacio inolvidable con temas de gran interés como el complot de Dominique Strauss-Kahn, el movimiento social en España 15-M o Democracia Real Ya, Ley Glass-Steagall, mi sello <a href='http://www.danielestulin.com/2011/05/30/daniel-estulin-en-camino-del-misterio-20-de-mayo-entrevista-a-dennis-small/'>[...]</a>]]></description>
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<p>Ha sido otro espacio inolvidable con temas de gran interés como el complot de Dominique Strauss-Kahn, el movimiento social en España 15-M o Democracia Real Ya, Ley Glass-Steagall, mi sello editorial, Club Bilderberg y mucho más.</p>
<p>Y mientras todos estaban tan entretenidos con todo lo anterior&#8230; ¿Qué acontecimiento de gran importancia estaba desarrollándose en Argentina y pasó desapercibido?</p>
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<p>Feliz noche de lunes para todos.</p>
<p>Daniel Estulin</p>
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		<title>Los medios de desinformación masiva</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 09:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Estulin</dc:creator>
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<p>Por fin, han terminado las elecciones regionales. Estaba yo ya subiéndome por las paredes viendo a los subnormales de turno, tanto de un partido como del otro, hablándome como a un degenerado intelectual. ¿La peor a la hora de proyectar sus mensajes? Sin duda, Esperanza Aguirre. Su forma pausada de hablar, enfatizando cada palabra, que es más bien propio de una subnormal sordomuda que le esté hablando a otro subnormal mudo, manco y tuerto.</p>
<p>Lo que más me ha &#8220;gustado&#8221; son los eslóganes de la campaña. Por ejemplo, el PP ha utilizado sin tapujos quizás uno de los eslóganes más imbéciles que he visto jamás: “Contigo Mayoría.”  Y a nadie se le ocurre preguntarle a Rajoy que lo explique&#8230; ¿Qué significa eso, Sr. Rajoy?</p>
<p>Sevilla, siendo un lugar singular en todos los sentidos de la palabra, tuvo su versión de Guerra de las Galaxias entre el candidato socialista a la alcaldía, Juan Espadas y su eslogan &#8216;Conmigo en Sevilla, decides tú&#8217; y su contrincante conservador Zoido que ha empezado a usar el eslogan &#8216;Porque tú decides, tú eres la llave&#8217;. Lo divertido en esa historia es que Espadas ha denunciado a Zoido ante la Junta Electoral porque considera un plagio el lema de la campaña electoral. ¡Plagio del lema electoral! ¿Cómo se plagia una idiotez como esa? ¡Que horror!</p>
<p>Tanto Espadas como Zoido son dos tipos ordinarios con clichés por lemas que demuestran la torpeza y falta de originalidad de los pensadores del partido. ¿Alguien duda que sus programas políticos sean iguales de torpes como sus lemas? Mirad a Rajoy, mirad a Zapatero. ¿Cómo se deletrea TORPE?</p>
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<p>Ya me siento mejor. Ahora, al grano. Los medios de comunicación. ¿Por qué no se van ya con el circo a otra parte? Al carajo o a donde sea. Cada día pintan menos, informan menos, saben menos, se preocupan por informar menos, carecen de honradez y dignidad humana. Circo y paja mental.</p>
<p>Os dejo un artículo, más bien una diatriba mía sobre el papel de los medios de comunicación.</p>
<p>Buen lunes a todos.</p>
<p><em><strong>Daniel Estulin</strong></em></p>
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<h4 style="text-align: center;">La ética de periodismo</h4>
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<p>El conflicto nunca puede ser explícito en el inextricablemente embrollado mundo aristocrático de la política americana. La pregunta que los medios de comunicación americanos deben cuestionarse es: ¿qué significa ser “imparcial”? Las empresas de los medios de comunicación cuyos presentadores llevan puesto el pin con la bandera americana, que escayolan sus programas con imágenes patriotas, están tomando partido—sobre todo cuando ofrecen poco o nada de tiempo de sus programas en directo a las críticas o a los disidentes. Seguramente es posible sentirnos orgullosos de nuestro país y, al mismo tiempo, practicar la democrática tradición de apoyar el derecho sagrado a disentir.</p>
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<p>El diálogo político es fuente de nuevas ideas, nuevas energías y nuevos caminos. El objetivo principal del periodismo debe ser la primera palabra, y no la última, sobre las ideas y prácticas que siguen cambiando el mundo.</p>
<p>Ha llegado la hora de que  los medios de comunicación, organizaciones periodísticas y grupos de ciudadanos tomen la iniciativa y demanden que la prensa libre tenga  derecho a cubrir las guerras y las agendas domesticas e internacionales como debe hacerse. Si los ciudadanos tienen el derecho de saber; si la niebla de guerra, tan a menudo citada, ha de ser despejada, entonces los medios de comunicación deben hacerse oír. Y la ciudadanía tiene que presionarles para que lo hagan.</p>
<p>El cinismo, la arrogancia y la brutalidad con que la administración Obama está liderando el mundo han provocado una hostilidad global profunda. La mayoría de los periodistas de televisión, a su vergüenza, han demostrado poco interés en este crimen ignominioso. Se empotran con el Ejército americano y participan en conferencias de prensa preparadas y guionadas de antemano por la Casa Blanca, oscureciendo lo obvio e innegable en sus reportajes, sea el supuesto asesinato de Usama bin Laden, la cobertura sensacionalista de los atrevidos crímenes de DSK o los excesos de sus propios políticos. ¿Qué es lo que ha pasado con el balance moral del periodismo americano después de 11 de Septiembre? El Dr. B.R. Ambedkar, filósofo y político indio, avisó hace mucho tiempo de que “los derechos se protegen no con leyes, sino con la consciencia social y moral de la sociedad.”</p>
<p>Las manifestaciones antiguerra en los EEUU durante los albores de la guerra de Iraq han sido las más numerosas desde las protestas contra la guerra de Vietnam en los años 70. ¿Por qué, entonces, los medios de comunicación han sido tan lentos y reacios a cuestionar la política cuando muchos ciudadanos se han mostrado dispuestos a hacerlo?</p>
<p>Si algo bueno ha salido de la guerra de Vietnam, es la comprensión de que los corresponsales de guerra deben transmitir imágenes completas: mostrar los cuerpos y contar los ataúdes; salir del pool periodístico y despreciar las sensibilidades de lo general. ¿Debe nuestro derecho a saber suplantar a los convencionalismos establecidos de buen gusto y decencia, a la delicadeza política e, incluso, al  ‘interés nacional’? ¿Deben los corresponsales de guerra enfocar las cámaras de los informativos en las víctimas civiles en vez de en los ejércitos: mostrar el horror sin distinción de la guerra—ahora tienes dos piernas, boom, ahora ninguna?  ¿Pueden los periodistas prevenir que la verdad sea la primera baja de la guerra?</p>
<p>En realidad, la causa inmediata de un reportaje comatoso es lo que se llama en broma la “cultura periodística” americana. Si los Rupert Murdochs de este mundo son los pastores del nuevo orden mundial, deben este éxito a la reproducción de ovejas dóciles: editores y  periodistas satisfechos con masticar, digerir y, finalmente, reimprimir una dieta diaria de las notas de prensa  elaboradas a medida por la Casa Blanca e historias enlatadas por los oficiales y operarios de corporaciones de relaciones públicas afiliados al gobierno.</p>
<p>En un mundo materialista en el que los exhibicionistas se sienten atraídos hacia el periodismo y hacia el mundo del espectáculo (¿hay alguna diferencia?), los periodistas se censurarán a sí mismos para complacer los supuestos intereses de sus propietarios y, a menudo, con la sagacidad del esclavo, conseguirán contentarles. El ser una persona de principios, honesta y digna representa pocas ventajas para la codicia. La primacía materialista es el dinero y el dinero es el rey.</p>
<p>Con lo que la administración Obama cuenta es con la incesante y denigrante estupidez de la población americana cuando se trata de actualidad, geografía y, por encima de todo, historia. El fastidio natural del ser humano por entender su propia historia, a propósito, es algo que los historiadores a menudo infravaloran.</p>
<p>Y hablando de la naturaleza humana: el poder corrompe. Corrompe a aquellos que lo ejercen. Y corrompe a aquellos que buscan formas de influir en aquellos que lo ejercen. Los medios de comunicación hace ya mucho tiempo que se han hecho socios del mundo de la élite. La prensa libre es un mito cuando la gente poderosa la controla. Solamente cuando mucha gente “pequeña” la posee, es cuando la prensa  verdaderamente independiente, fundamentada en nuestro “derecho a saber”, será posible. Esto es un argumento potente a favor de las bitácoras.</p>
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<p>En el mundo orweliano del periodismo actual, donde una nueva forma de rectitud política enmarca cada declaración, el lenguaje se contrae. Como el objetivo  del pensamiento totalitario es  controlar que la expresión de una “impropiedad política” resulte imposible, el propósito final de esta Nueva-Lengua-Neoconservadora es la abolición de muchos términos habituales. En este contexto, las palabras se usan no para debatir puntos de vista, sino para impedir y acabar con la discusión.</p>
<p>Los ciudadanos sólo pueden comprender con profundidad una idea sobre cualquier tema, sea grande o pequeña, si viven en un ambiente de información ir-restringida y se ofrece la más amplia gama de conocimiento potencial. En la cima de cualquier sociedad democrática, los políticos son “llamados a declarar” ante la opinión pública y se previenen las tiranías dando a conocer a la sociedad  los fracasos estrepitosos y los abusos de poder.</p>
<p>Ésta es la razón principal de la ineludible existencia de la prensa libre, con todas sus imperfecciones manifiestas. Éste es el motivo que ha llevado a los dictadores, oligarcas, juntas, emperadores, jeques, reyes y  demás tiranos a lo largo de la historia  a censurar y  asfixiar la diseminación libre de información y opinión.</p>
<p>La política es, en esencia, un debate. Debemos insistir en un nueva forma de crítica cuya principal función sea, no confirmar nuestro derecho a saber, sino aplicar una presión concentrada en las ideas mediáticas y en las presunciones de la actualidad. La alternativa, por el contrario, es demasiado terrorífica.</p>
<p><strong><em>Daniel Estulin</em></strong></p>
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<p>Hoy toca elegir. Entre malo y mucho peor, pero bueno, por lo menos, como dicen los políticos, ¡es una elección democrática! Lo importante de lo que hemos visto esta semana no son los acontecimientos a lo largo del día de hoy, sino a partir de mañana. ¿Habrán aprendido algo de todo eso los políticos? O, haciendo uso de sus calculadoras, ¿Calcularon los daños que unas 100,000 personas a lo largo y ancho de España pueden causar a sus programas políticos? Si es así, no harán ni caso ni tampoco aprenderán del descontento general.</p>
<p>Vuelvo a repetir, lo que estamos viviendo en Madrid, es lo mismo que los egipcios ya han vivido en el Cairo, lo que todos hemos visto en Argelia, Bahrein, Túnez, Maruecos, Ohio, California, Oregón, Grecia, Irlanda, Islandia, Portugal&#8230; El desplome financiero mundial. Se trata de la torpeza generalizada de la élite financiera, de los gobiernos que trabajan para el bien de los bancos, de los banqueros que trabajan por el bien suyo propio, de una sociedad cada vez más perdida, sin ideas ni ideales ni líderes. Y de los líderes, sabemos mucho, ¿Verdad? ZP, Rajoy, Sarkozy, DSK, Obama, Harper, Cameron. Sé que hay peores. Lo preocupante es que no hay mejores. Los líderes son un espejo de la sociedad y a los que tenemos ahora, se les recordará en la historia como un guión entre la fecha del nacimiento y la muerte.</p>
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<p>Otro asunto algo cómico. Han salido noticias en medios extranjeros de que supuestamente me arrestaron en el aeropuerto de Barajas camino a una conferencia en Dublín, hasta salió que la Interpol me estaba buscando. <strong>Os aseguro que la noticia es falsa</strong>. Es cierto, que hace tiempo estaba previsto impartir varias conferencias en Irlanda, pero por problemas logísticos tuve que cancelar el viaje. No es la primera vez que algo así sale en los medios. El año pasado, durante la reunión del Club Bilderberg en Sitges me pararon en el aeropuerto de Prat de Barcelona y revisaron mi equipaje. Os recuerdo que los medios nacionales 30 minutos más tarde estaban diciendo en directo que la Guardia Civil me tenían retenido.</p>
<p>El sensacionalismo vende, así que vuelvo a desmentir la noticia. Estoy bien, muy vivo (por ahora) en Madrid trabajando en  el nuevo libro que tengo que acabar, sí o sí en 5 días.</p>
<p>¡Buen domingo a todos!</p>
<p>Daniel Estulin</p>
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